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		<title>Video from The Conversation</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Kirsner has posted a bunch of videos on his CinemaTech blog from The Conversation event held in NYC back in March. Below is video from the Stories Everywhere panel on new ways of making media &#8211; featuring Asi Burak, Gita Pullapilly, Fred Seibert, Lance Weiler and moderated by Wendy Levy. ConvoNYC &#8211; Stories Elsewhere &#8211; Part 1 of 3 from Scott Kirsner on Vimeo. ConvoNYC &#8211; Stories Elsewhere &#8211; Part 2 of 3 from Scott Kirsner on Vimeo. ConvoNYC<a href="http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2010/05/video-from-the-conversation/">...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Kirsner has posted a bunch of videos on his<a href="http://cinematech.blogspot.com/2010/05/video-from-conversation-columbia.html" target="_blank"> CinemaTech blog</a> from <a href="http://theconversationspot.com/" target="_blank">The Conversation</a> event held in NYC back in March. Below is video from the Stories Everywhere panel on new ways of making media &#8211; featuring Asi Burak, Gita Pullapilly, Fred Seibert, Lance Weiler and moderated  by Wendy Levy.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/11268139">ConvoNYC &#8211; Stories Elsewhere &#8211; Part 1 of 3</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user2453203">Scott Kirsner</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/11268212">ConvoNYC &#8211; Stories Elsewhere &#8211; Part 2 of 3</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user2453203">Scott Kirsner</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/11268424">ConvoNYC &#8211; Stories Elsewhere &#8211; Part 3 of 3</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user2453203">Scott Kirsner</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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		<title>Fans, Friends &amp; Followers &#8211; Scott Kirsner helps you find your audience</title>
		<link>http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2009/04/fans-friends-and-followers-scott-kirsner-helps-you-find-your-audience/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ingrid</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Kirsner&#8217;s CinemaTech blog is always a great place to find out about technical innovations in the film world and now he was written a book, Fans, Friends and Followers: Building an Audience and a Creative Career in the Digital Age, that compiles interviews with artists doing great and interesting things with their work and includes lots of useful content for filmmakers in search of an audience (yes, that means you!). In the introduction Kirsner introduces us to the New<a href="http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2009/04/fans-friends-and-followers-scott-kirsner-helps-you-find-your-audience/">...</a>]]></description>
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<p>Scott Kirsner&#8217;s <a href="http://cinematech.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">CinemaTech</a> blog is always a great place to find out about technical innovations in the film world and now he was written a book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1442100745?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=shootpeopl-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1442100745">Fans, Friends and Followers: Building an Audience and a Creative Career in the Digital Age</a>, that compiles interviews with artists doing great and interesting things with their work and includes lots of useful content for filmmakers in search of an audience (yes, that means you!).</p>
<p>In the introduction Kirsner introduces us to the New Rules:</p>
<p><em>We&#8217;ve entered into what I call the era of digital creativity. In this era, artists have the tools to make anything they can envision, inexpensively&#8230;They can build teams and collaborate across great distances, bridging divides of language and culture. They can cultivate an audience and communicate with it regularly, carrying it (or at least a segment of it) with them from one project to another. And they can take control over the transaction, whether it is selling a work of art on eBay, a book through Amazon, or a ticket to a live performance via Brown Paper Tickets.</em></p>
<p><em>If you are a glass-half full type, you&#8217;ve already realized that the era of digital creativity presents incredible opportunities. You can do what you love, reach an audience, and earn some money. What starts off as a small fan base can quite suddenly go global, enabling you to quit your day job and earn a solid living.</em></p>
<p><em>The flip side is that there has never been a noisier, more competititve time to try to make art, entertain people, and tell stories. Everyone is doing it, and so there is an incredible surplus of content in every art form.</em></p>
<p><em>In 2000, 973 full-length films were submitted to the Sundance Film Festival, generally considered the best platform for launching a new indie movie. By 2008, that number had risen to 3,624. (Just 121 were accepted.)</em></p>
<p>And to that I would add that most of those 121 did not receive any kind of traditional distribution offer!</p>
<p>Kirsner includes a list of useful strategies, things he learned while interviewing people for the book (eg. Create Opportunities for Participation, Understand the Power of the Link, Choose the Platforms You&#8217;re Going to Use). Some of these strategies may sound obvious but it&#8217;s one thing to say them and quite another to actually do them.</p>
<p>The interviews are divided into five sections: Film &amp; Video, Music, Visual Arts, Writing, and Comedy &amp; Magic. The Film &amp; Video section includes interviews with a diverse range of people including: <a href="http://filmsthatchangetheworld.vswebdev.com/The-Movement/Sandi-DuBowski" target="_blank">Sandi DuBowski</a>, <a href="http://www.robertgreenwald.org/" target="_blank">Robert Greenwald</a>, <a href="http://www.zefrank.com/" target="_blank">Ze Frank</a>, <a href="http://stevegarfield.com/Site/Welcome.html" target="_blank">Steve Garfield</a>, and Gregg and Evan Spiridellis (<a href="http://sendables.jibjab.com" target="_blank">JibJab Media</a>).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a useful reference section in the back with a bunch of great links and some supplemental reading, including links to smart people like <a href="http://www.kk.org/" target="_blank">Kevin Kelly</a>, <a href="http://lanceweiler.com/blog/" target="_blank">Lance Weiler</a>, and <a href="http://www.shirky.com/" target="_blank">Clay Shirky</a>.</p>
<p>You can download a 35-page sample of <em>Fans, Friends &#038; Followers</em> on <a href="http://www.scottkirsner.com/fff/" target="_blank">Kirsner&#8217;s website</a> and order the book there too. Or buy it from Amazon using the link below.</p>
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		<title>I&#8217;m joining The Conversation!</title>
		<link>http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2008/10/im-joining-the-conversation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m really excited to be heading to Berkeley, CA for The Conversation later this week. Partly because I love Berkeley and am always happy to have an excuse to visit the Bay Area, but mainly because The Conversation looks like it is going to be a brilliant couple of days of discussion about new ways of thinking about films, audiences, and platforms. The organizers are Ken Goldberg, Tiffany Shlain, Scott Kirsner and Lance Weiler and participants include Ted Hope, Peter<a href="http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2008/10/im-joining-the-conversation/">...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really excited to be heading to Berkeley, CA for <a href="http://www.theconversationspot.com" target="_blank">The Conversation</a> later this week. Partly because I love Berkeley and am always happy to have an excuse to visit the Bay Area, but mainly because The Conversation looks like it is going to be a brilliant couple of days of discussion about new ways of thinking about films, audiences, and platforms. The organizers are Ken Goldberg, Tiffany Shlain, Scott Kirsner and Lance Weiler and participants include Ted Hope, Peter Broderick, Wendy Levy, Arin Crumley and many, many more. Teach me people! Actually, The Conversation seems to be all about sharing knowledge rather than creating a one-directional flow of information which fits very nicely with the participatory world we are all (hopefully) creating. Here&#8217;s a description from the <a href="http://www.theconversationspot.com" target="_blank">website</a>:</p>
<p><em>This October, pioneers at the forefront of change in cinema, video, games, media and technology are coming together to share ideas, insights, and innovations. Our focus is on new tools, new distribution channels, and new rules.</em></p>
<p><em><img src="http://www.theconversationspot.com/images/campanile3.jpg" alt="" hspace="8" vspace="8" align="right" />The format of the gathering will be experimental: rather than a traditional conference, short talks and demos, &#8220;fireside chats,&#8221; and roundtables will spark a dynamic series of overlapping conversations.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be writing about The Conversation on the <a href="http://shootingpeople.org/tools/" target="_blank"> Shooting People TOOLS blog</a>. Unfortunately, due to soaring flight prices, I&#8217;m flying there tomorrow via Hawaii and Alaska (ok that&#8217;s a slight exageration but the diva in me is all about direct flights these days!). Wah!</p>
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		<title>ITVS Digital Initiative: Strategies and Case Studies</title>
		<link>http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2008/10/itvs-digital-initiative-strategies-and-case-studies/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Kirsner of CinemaTech was commissioned by ITVS to investigate how indepedent filmmakers are working with new technologies and to answer the following questions: Opening Up Production to Participation During pre-production and production, how are filmmakers communicating with audiences, widely dispersed teams, funders and prospective subjects in new ways? What new opportunities for involvement and participation are they exploring? Finding New Audiences Once a project is completed and ready for release/broadcast, how are filmmakers using blogs, social networks, games and<a href="http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2008/10/itvs-digital-initiative-strategies-and-case-studies/">...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Kirsner of <a href="http://cinematech.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">CinemaTech</a> was commissioned by <a href="http://www.itvs.org" target="_blank">ITVS</a> to investigate how indepedent filmmakers are working with new technologies and to answer the <a href="http://www.itvs.org/producers/digitalinitiative/fieldreport/index.html" target="_blank">following questions</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Opening Up Production to Participation</strong><br />
During pre-production and production, how are filmmakers communicating with audiences, widely dispersed teams, funders and prospective subjects in new ways? What new opportunities for involvement and participation are they exploring?</p>
<p><strong>Finding New Audiences </strong><br />
Once a project is completed and ready for release/broadcast, how are filmmakers using blogs, social networks, games and other technologies to reach audiences that will care about their project?</p>
<p><strong>New Distribution Opportunities </strong><br />
How are filmmakers presenting their work on websites, cell phones, iPods and the new generation of Internet-connected TVs and set-top boxes? Do these distribution avenues create conflict with more traditional outlets? Are there substantial economic benefits or simply promotional positives?</p></blockquote>
<p>You should check out the suggested <a href="http://www.itvs.org/producers/digitalinitiative/fieldreport/topfive.html" target="_blank">strategies</a> for connection-creating, marketing and promotion and distribution.</p>
<p>Case studies include:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.itvs.org/producers/digitalinitiative/fieldreport/hiphop.html">Byron Hurt:HIP-HOP: Beyond Beats and Rhymes</a><br />
<a href="http://www.itvs.org/producers/digitalinitiative/fieldreport/electionday.html">Katy Chevigny: ELECTION DAY</a><br />
<a href="http://www.itvs.org/producers/digitalinitiative/fieldreport/kingcorn.html">Curt Ellis: KING CORN</a><br />
<a href="http://www.itvs.org/producers/digitalinitiative/fieldreport/stilllife.html">David Iverson: STILL LIFE</a><br />
<a href="http://www.itvs.org/producers/digitalinitiative/fieldreport/10mph.html">Hunter Weeks and Josh Caldwell: <em>10 MPH</em></a><br />
<a href="http://www.itvs.org/producers/digitalinitiative/fieldreport/tribe.html">Tiffany Shlain: <em>The Tribe</em></a></p>
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		<title>Getting your Film on iTunes</title>
		<link>http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2008/08/getting-your-film-on-itunes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Kirsner has a useful post on CinemaTech entitled How To Get Your Film on iTunes (&#8230; It&#8217;s Not Easy) &#8211; which explains how you have to go via an aggregator first. Kirsner says Amazon&#8217;s CreateSpace is the best alternative option if you just want to do it yourself (films can then be sold via Amazon Unbox, a digital download service) but &#8220;you&#8217;ll have to drive customers to your work &#8212; unlike iTunes, where the customers are already buying movies<a href="http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2008/08/getting-your-film-on-itunes/">...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Kirsner has a useful post on CinemaTech entitled <a href="http://cinematech.blogspot.com/2008/08/how-to-get-your-indie-film-on-itunes.html" target="_blank">How To Get Your Film on iTunes (&#8230; It&#8217;s Not Easy)</a> &#8211; which explains how you have to go via an aggregator first. Kirsner says Amazon&#8217;s <a href="http://www.createspace.com/Products/VideoDownload.jsp" target="_blank">CreateSpace</a> is the best alternative option if you just want to do it yourself (films can then be sold via Amazon Unbox, a digital download service) but &#8220;you&#8217;ll have to drive customers to your work &#8212; unlike iTunes, where the customers are already buying movies in big numbers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>The Conversation &#8211; New Distribution Channels, New Tools and the Future of Visual Storytelling</title>
		<link>http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2008/07/the-conversation-new-distribution-channels-new-tools-and-the-future-of-visual-storytelling/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another new post is up on TOOLS, this time about The Conversation “a two-day conversation — definitely not a conference — about the future of cinema, video, games, and telling stories with new media” coming up in Berkeley, CA later this year and bought to you by Ken Goldberg, Scott Kirsner, Tiffany Shlain and Lance Weiler. I definitely plan to attend this because I know many of the people involved and I&#8217;m sure it will be a really useful and<a href="http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2008/07/the-conversation-new-distribution-channels-new-tools-and-the-future-of-visual-storytelling/">...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another new post is up on <a href="http://shootingpeople.org/tools/2008/07/02/contributing-to-the-conversation/" target="_blank">TOOLS</a>, this time about <a href="http://www.theconversationspot.com/" target="_blank">The Conversation</a> “a two-day conversation — definitely not a conference — about the future of cinema, video, games, and telling stories with new media” coming up in Berkeley, CA later this year and bought to you by Ken Goldberg, Scott Kirsner, Tiffany Shlain and Lance Weiler.</p>
<p>I definitely plan to attend this because I know many of the people involved and I&#8217;m sure it will be a really useful and inspirational couple of days. Plus I&#8217;m determined to be looking forward, not back, as we figure out how to live digitally as artists (who need to eat and pay rent!)</p>
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		<title>1,000 True Fans</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went to a roundtable discussion organized by the From Here to Awesome team at SXSW last week. Many topics were covered but one of the things I was pleased to discover is this 1,000 True Fans article by Kevin Kelly. What is really useful about this article is that Kelly is focusing on the possibilities for everyone working between &#8220;poverty and stardom&#8221; &#8211; rather than talking about the Radioheads of this world. This is the crux of it: A<a href="http://shootingpeople.org/blog/2008/03/1000-true-fans/">...</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to a roundtable discussion organized by the <a href="http://fromheretoawesome.com" target="_blank">From Here to Awesome</a> team at SXSW last week. Many topics were covered but one of the things I was pleased to discover is this <a href="http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/03/1000_true_fans.php" target="_blank">1,000 True Fans</a> article by Kevin Kelly. What is really useful about this article is that Kelly is focusing on the possibilities for everyone working between &#8220;poverty and stardom&#8221; &#8211; rather than talking about the Radioheads of this world. This is the crux of it:</p>
<p><em>A creator, such as an artist, musician, photographer, craftsperson, performer, animator, designer, videomaker, or author &#8211; in other words, anyone producing works of art &#8211; needs to acquire only 1,000 True Fans to make a living.</em></p>
<p><em>A True Fan is defined as someone who will purchase anything and everything you produce. They will drive 200 miles to see you sing. They will buy the super deluxe re-issued hi-res box set of your stuff even though they have the low-res version. They have a Google Alert set for your name. They bookmark the eBay page where your out-of-print editions show up. They come to your openings. They have you sign their copies. They buy the t-shirt, and the mug, and the hat. They can&#8217;t wait till you issue your next work. They are true fans. </em></p>
<p><a href="http://cinematech.blogspot.com/2008/03/difference-between-fan-and-friend.html" target="_blank">Scott Kirsner</a> feels like the term &#8220;fan&#8221; is too passive and discusses alternative words that better suggest the possibilities for creativity and collaboration.</p>
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