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What does a freelancer do when called to do Jury Service..?

I don't think I can get out of it, but surely I can claim expenses? In which case how do I prove loss of earnings?

Any one else here had this problem and found a solution?

Cheers!

  • One of those questions probably better to just ask the court, or gov.uk website!

    www.gov.uk/jury-service/what-you-can-cla...

    3 years ago
    • I believe you can claim travel, a food allowance and the equivalent of the maximum Jobseekers Allowance for your time.

      3 years ago
  • Being called to a jury is one of the greatest expressions of our constitutional law as provided for in 'Magna Carta 1215' and the wholly intact, unchallenged and unamended 'Declaration of Rights 1688'and it's inferior mirrored statute the 'Bill of Rights 1689'. Unfortunately successive governments, with the disgraceful if not entirely criminal acquiescence of much of the judiciary, particularly since the late 19th century, have attempted to usurp the authority of the jury (once commonly referred to as 'Little Parliaments' for good reason).

    Karel, if you must serve be very clear in your mind that the highest authority in any court of English Law is the Jury, not the judge. The jury can, for all sorts of entirely legitimate reasons find the self evidently guilty not guilty; even though such may seem perverse to the unlearned, just so long as "it is just in ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES" to the jury. The Judge has only the narrow power to correct errors of procedure, to govern the proper management of the proceeding according to Law and to guide all members of the court with regard to law as it affects the case, even though they often get it wrong themselves when relying on legal fictions. The Jury can even assert, through thier general powers of judgement, limits, up or down, on the judges power to sentence. Whilst the judge can suggest alternative charges, so can the jury, whose wishes are supreme; the judiciary don't encourage you to know that! The notion that a judge can 'direct' a jury in any other context is a brazen and dangerous falsehood. The jury can ask questions of any witness, through the judge. The jury can ask for just about anything if it's in aid of their ability to make a judgement. Note that it's the jury who make the judgement, not anyone else whosoever. Don't let the court or anyone else order you about with regard to anything you do that is lawful, and quite frankly that's just about everything apart from what common sense tells you is wrong in Common Law, Tort or clearly a crime.

    It's unfortunate that laymen and women are often dependent on the spurious misinformation provided by government websites and disgracefully unlawful courts for advice, check them out but don't accept them as gospel. It's not the courts or the government who are the authority but that entity that nearly all powerful elites secretly loath, the Law itself, not statutes and Acts of Parliament, which are not law per se, but the actual Law as defined solely by Constitutional Instruments (higher than and unalterable by Parliament, otherwise what would be the point of any constitution?). There's going to be a lot more about this from a great many quarters over next months and years.

    As far as compensation for jury service, there are democratizing and moral limits; however if you can demonstrate that carrying out jury service would impact disproportionately against your well being then you can and should be excused. If not then do your duty, uphold our very real and very written constitution (you can go and read the Constitutional Instruments themselves in Palace of Westminster library; as ever, you really couldn't make it up!) and don't let them grind you down. Tell your fellow jurors that they are in charge and can do anything they feel is correct without a by your leave from anyone, not even the Queen!

    3 years ago
  • I love jury service, but most Americans would agree with you Karel.

    3 years ago
  • Get your accountant to write a letter to the court explaining you are self-employed and your business will be severely impacted if you have to do Jury Service.

    3 years ago
  • I was called to jury service at a Coroner's Court a couple of years ago. I claimed all my travel expenses (public transport receipts in my case, but they allow car travel with a mileage rate without receipts) and some loss of income. I just put a figure in I thought was realistic, and they never asked for any proof. In hindsight, I kicked myself for not having put in twice as much. Having said this, they do have a limit per day of what you can claim for loss of income. Just phone up the people who sent you the summons, and they should be able to tell you what it is (can't remember what the limit was then, it has probably changed since then anyway).

    Oh, and do make sure you've got plenty books to read when you do your jury service.

    3 years ago
  • I said on the form I wanted to defer - and told them that my earnings would be severely impacted and I would struggle to get by as I was self employed, with no employer to cover my wages. Which was true as the expenses are hardly anything and depend on how long the case goes on for. In any case it would be nowhere nearly enough to cover my rent and bills, let alone travel and food - I wrote all this in a statement and they let me defer with no issue at all.

    3 years ago
  • Thanks everyone.

    I wasn't trying to skive off, but I've done it before and found the experience deeply depressing. It wasn't the 10 Angry Men I thought it would be.

    I'll write and ask to have it deferred. Very busy this autumn. If I do end up doing it I'll just put in a modest claim. A large one may get a request for proof, which for a freelancer is difficult.

    Cheers!

    3 years ago
    • If you're allowed to talk about it, how was the experience?

      3 years ago
  • If you've already served on a jury that should increase your chance of being excused.

    3 years ago
  • They just want proof of earnings that they can photocopy for their files. Bring a copy of last years tax return, last months bank statement or something similar and they'll pay you at your standard rate on top of expenses. Deferring isn't a brilliant idea as you'll just be asked again in six months time and you won't be able to defer that one, however inconvenient it may be. Having something prepared to show the negative impact on your business if you are assigned to a long trial is sensible just in case, but in my experience both times I did Jury service it was a couple of short minor cases and a lot of waiting around.

    3 years ago
  • You can demonstrate average earnings and apply that to lost earnings for your period on Service. Alternatively, a letter from an employer that uses you stating what you would earn during that period should suffice: but the Court supply an info leaflet for self employed how to claim.

    3 years ago
  • I did it a couple of years ago. I deferred once for 6 months from June to January, a far less busy time, work wise. I submitted invoices for the year and they worked out an average salary that I earned. And as a freelancer I was given a fairly decent amount of compensation.

    3 years ago