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Advice for Shooting Stop Motion/Creepy Horror Feel - Please Help!

11 years, 1 month ago - Paul W Franklin

Hi,

I'm planning to make a music video, that I pitched as being 'Stop Motion' and having a kind of jerky unsettling 'horror' feel to it.

How is best to do this?

It's live action, not animation, no clay models or anything. Just a man walking around and interacting with some objects.
Do I need to do the whole thing with a stills camera, taking individual shots? Or can I use a film camera (e.g. we have a BMCC) and just film it at a certain frame-rate, or do something particular to it in the edit?

Many thanks!
Paul

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11 years, 1 month ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin

Hard lighting/uplighting? Create loads of shadows? Shadows are scary.

The emotion of film is in the music, so if it's an S Club 7 bouncy pop number it'll be a hard task!

Response from 11 years, 1 month ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin SHOW

11 years ago - Tim iloobia

hi there Paul,

nice question….

theres a few things you could try to get a creepy feel that have worked for me in the past -
filming everything as if its going half the speed it normally should - eg walking, then when in the edit, speeding it up to x200 and randomly chop frames out of the footage. Takes some practice but you can get really nice results.

also, filming stuff backwards is a good one especially when that is done slowly in front of the camera with exaggerated movements

and also play around with your shutterspeed - either filming at a low setting (25 or below) can be quite interesting when speeing footage up, but going high (500 to 1000) when doing the backwards stuff could be rather odd as well.

then mix all the techniques up and get all freaky.

and like Paddy says, some interesting bold lighting will really help.

That Metz advert was filmed on an old handcranked movie camera - which would be super ideal but not the most immediate of workflows. Totally brilliant though….

hope this is helpful
Tim

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11 years ago - Jon-Paul Washington

Hi Paul, I'll be experimenting for my next short, for similar reasons, e.g. using shutter angles of 45 degrees and slow frame rates, etc, but for yours and the fact that you are using a BMCC, try exporting from an NLE the sequences/scenes that you wish to have such 'jerky' movement and export from the edited time line as non-compressed files in the same format but with lower frame rates, e.g. 12, then re-import into your NLE and place in the timeline/edit. OR you can manually remove frames from your sequence/scenes to give you a 'stop-motion' jerky effect, which i've done recently at the end of this corporate promo for Peacful Hooligan and Acme Whistles Ltd. (the whistle and its packaging 02.04 - 02.15) http://vimeo.com/97596027

Hope this helps.

J.P.

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11 years ago - ANDY LEWIS

Lots of things you can play with:
Have your actor walk backwards then reverse the clip in the edit. So he is going forwards but in a strange way.
Multiply the image and overlay it so the character's outline is a fraction of a second delayed
Add earthquake effect to some of those layers.
So many things can be done.

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11 years, 1 month ago - Marlom Tander

like this? classic Spike Milligan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VZOUutcoRg

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11 years ago - Alex Kruszelnicki

Add a bit of flicker to the footage in post and play around with the FPS like we did here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw3m2ddCHo4

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11 years ago - Paul W Franklin

Thanks for all the suggestions people, will give it all a go!
P.

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11 years, 1 month ago - Paul W Franklin

Yes Marlom, a lot like that, with a hint of this old Metz advert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TUOPeNJCK8
and that jarring creepiness of modern horror, e.g. this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7XC-4zVirA

And Paddy, no it's not S Club!

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11 years ago - Paul W Franklin

Good stuff guys, keep it coming!

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11 years ago - Jon-Paul Washington

Hi Paul,

Another suggestion: is to shoot at 1/96 shutter speed or 1/100 if not possible, may give you a similar effect as using a 90 degree shutter angle. (use Frame Rate of 24FPS)

Cheers,

Jon-Paul

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