ASK & DISCUSS INDEX

12 years, 9 months ago - Simon Ruben

Hi rich

You can alter the plural eyes settings to create a single output sequence rather than one for each clip - which I always do as it saves on the confusion of too many sequences. Plural eyes recently came out with version 3 which I bought and promptly got a refund for. Still using version 2 when I need it.

I'm a Fcp x fan and with the most recent update I feel it is superior to Fcp 7. Especially on a feature project like yours the method of organising your media is incredible - metadata is the way forward. Bins seem 'Stone Age' after you get our head round keywords, smart collections and the search abilities in the event library.
Syncing in fcp x gives you a sync to sound option but I haven't tried it on a mammoth edit yet / the shorter cuts I've worked on with it have worked a treat and you have multiple options when syncing.

Good luck!

Simon

12 years, 9 months ago - Ben Hole

Pluralryes to single sequence and Check replace audio. This should give you a new bin containing all the video clips in the single sync sequence with the audio replaced within them - happy days.

12 years, 9 months ago - Jonathan Brind

I have a 7D/H4n and FCPX and find that FCPX rarely syncs outputs from the two successfully. Also if you do sync you can give up your ability to manipulate the clips in some ways further down the editing line. However since the 7D generates its own sound track its quite easy to sync the two manually.

12 years, 9 months ago - Sheila Marshall

We've used the automatic sync of FCPX on one project and it just worked. It does automatically what people used to do manually with the clapperboards: aline peaks and troughs of the two sound profiles. The project we used it on was small (3 hours of footage), but we had no issues. Hope it works just as well for large ones.

12 years, 9 months ago - Richard Ridout

Hi Simon,

Thanks for your help on this.

So, by changing the Pluraleyes settings I will end up with one timeline. lets say I end up with 20 hours of synced footage on one timeline. How then would I quickly get to a specific piece of footage? Is it all in the labelling? Perhaps I will get fcp x if it has a good footage search feature... What I can't get my head around (i'm not a pro editor) is how I can efficiently pick out synced footage from a 20 hour long Pluraleyes timeline. Starting to wish I had recorded sound to camera. Is the answer in fcp x?

Cheers,

Rich

12 years, 9 months ago - Richard Ridout

Hi ken, yes I did record sound to the 7d and syncing software should work fine in that respect. Workflow is my main concern. It's sounding like the first thing to do in any case is name all the video clips. May sound obvious but when you are dealing with so much footage, you have got to be sure, have a solid plan, so you don't end up wasting loads of time... Would you suggest a manual sync after rough edit? Or could pluraleyes be used after doing a rough edit? Either way, I would prefer to find a way where I can edit with the quality sound, after the sync...

12 years, 9 months ago - Ken Barnes

Rich,
Maybe one workflow that would work is to do a rough cut first before syncing, if your camera sound is decent enough. Saves you syncing a bunch of stuff you might not use. Of course you will have no way of confirming that the H4N sound is good enough at matching what you've cut. Trust your sound man? :-)
Your second post says "wish I had recorded sound to camera". I assume you mean "better" sound. If there is no sound on the 7D at all, you're fkd except to find visual sync points like doors closing, etc. and doing it all by eye. I made a feature drama with the same setup and had no trouble keeping things organised. But docs are much more unwieldy I know. Good luck.