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Mark Withers

12 years, 1 month ago - Mark Withers

Dear Shooters

I'm about to start an off-line edit of a feature film entitled 'Bonobo' shot on 2x Red Epic cameras last month.

We will soon be looking for a talented colourist at a price we can afford to make this beautiful film even more so.

The files are R3D shot at 5k. I've only ever edited a 90 second promo shot on Red.

For a manageable workflow what file types would you recommend transcoding the 9TB of footage to in order to make it editable on a MacPro with 18GB RAM and also easily link back to the original files for on-line at a later date?

Also, in regards to on-line - we will require a colour grade, and I'm guessing the film will be around the 105 minute region.

What ball park figure might you be looking at to undertake such a project? Then make a final 4k master.

A great many thanks

MARK WITHERS
Rockin' Motion pictures Ltd

http://bonobo-film.com

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Jason Rayment

12 years ago - Jason Rayment

Hi Mark,

Firstly congratulations on the feature, wow you mean business with two cameras!
Well the best format to offline will be in this case Apple Prores LT or Proxy as HQ will actually increase your storage needs by double pretty much.
A colourist will only require the XML of your project and of course the online footage that is associated with the XML. Relinkling can be done by the colourist quite simply with no additional work from you. Though for a deliverable I suppose a 4k DSM will future proof yourself but in practical terms a 2K DCP is a must.

Best,

Jason
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Lee 'Wozy' Warren

12 years ago - Lee 'Wozy' Warren

I agree wit h Paddy. You shouldn't really be cutting an offline in full res. proxy it and online full res later. It will be more manageable all round for everyone. It will also be cheaper too as any facility will not be charging you for such high storage costs. Then with the online from an EDL you will only store the amount of footage needed plus handles. I used to online projects like this all the time back in 06/07/08 on HD high end Avid or 4k DI Quantel Pablo.

Good luck.
@wozyW

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Mark Withers

12 years ago - Mark Withers

Dear Paddy, Lee and Jason

Many thanks for coming back to answer my query.

I'm not so sure where you got the idea I was planning on editing it at full res...but after watching some tutorials I decided to transcode to ProRes422, then you all confirmed what I'd already started. So thanks.

After day 3 I've transcoded 51 128GB cards with another 31 to go and have cut 19 scenes together with all going swimmingly. I even have 2 good on-line options.

Kind regards
Mark Withers

http://bonobo-film.com

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Paddy Robinson-Griffin

12 years, 1 month ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin

For the offline, wouldn't an SD proxy do you? Then you can create your EDL and conform from the relevant parts of the 9TB? 9TB of transcodes is going to take a LONG time for any HD quality. Grade - when you have your picture lock and conform you can go to a proper colourist. Allow maybe 10 mins/day, so upto 10-11 days colouring. 4k master - are you sure that's the only deliverable? Seems to miss the whole audio workflow, digital cinema package, etc.

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