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INDEXMusic Video Play List - Audio Issue
6 years, 1 month ago - Andrew Ionides
Hi Shooters,
Hope you're well this afternoon.
Apologies for the strange question but really wanted to pick an editor's brain here as I'm a bit new to the editing process.
My fiancee and I are creating a music video playlist for our wedding reception on Premiere Pro. I downloaded the music videos, deleted their sound file and replaced them with M4A files assuming these were better quality (I realize WAV files are the best but I don't have these available). We exported the whole playlist as a H.264 file. When we played back the file through a TV, we noticed some songs sounded crisper and louder whilst others sounded slightly muted in comparison.
I tried exporting the audio on its own as an uncompressed Waveform file. It still sounded like some songs were louder than others.
Some songs were ripped from CDs whilst others were downloaded from iTunes so I'm not sure if it's just the original quality M4A affecting this although they did sound loud and clear when playing them on the laptop.
Does anyone have any experience with exporting music video playlists? If so, what's the best settings/process to export them?
Many thanks in advance for your help.
Andrew
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6 years, 1 month ago - Alwyne Kennedy
Why not adjust the volume levels of each song in Premiere so that they sound equally loud?
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6 years, 1 month ago - Andrew Ionides
Thanks Alwyne. You mean just adjust the gain/decibel setting whilst in edit mode?
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6 years, 1 month ago - Alwyne Kennedy
Yes. With the songs in individual clips, each clip will have a Volume effect showing in the Effects Controls panel. Adjust the level to whatever you want. Do understand that you should aim to have the song stay under 0db on the Level Meter. That is, no song should should ever go over 0db at any time. Better still, make -3dB your top limit to give a bit of headroom.
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6 years, 1 month ago - Andrew Ionides
Wonderful. Thank you Alwyne I'll try that.
I don't suppose you know the best export settings or does that not really matter? It will be played on two screens from a sound technician's laptop so not sure if that makes a difference to settings.
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6 years, 1 month ago - Barry Ryerson
This is quite a common problem with playlists because all songs have a different volumes. I don't know if Premier has an audio compressor effect you can apply to the audio tracks, but compressing it gently can help even out the dynamics. That said, if you're not sure what you're doing with compressor settings it's far too easy to make it sound worse, not better!
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6 years, 1 month ago - Andrew Ionides
Thanks Barry. Yes I think you're right about the compressor effect. I think it's a multi-band compressor effect. I may have to try it with each track but another good tip! Thank you
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6 years, 1 month ago - Tim Benjamin
It's not as simple as adjusting the volume, although if this works for you, then fine, read no further :-) I'm assuming they are pop / dance / mass-market tracks, right? Then each track will probably have been mastered in order to give a maximum perceived attention-grabbing "loudness", even though they all probably peak at the same level. Perceived loudness is a whole complex topic... And if not commercial pop tracks, some may have been mastered to -1db, some to 0db, some might be clipped as they've been recycled from elsewhere, etc etc. But basically, I think the answer above which recommends a compressor rather than merely adjusting the volume levels is the best way forward. Or a mastering plugin such as Ozone that has several tools built in (including a compressor), with easy-to-use presets.
Another (easier?) approach would be to record the music for each song from Spotify, onto your computer. There, all this volume-matching magic is more or less done for you as part of their ingestion process. Hence a playlist on Spotify generally sounds at the same perceived loudness throughout, and they have a "normalize volume" option in their settings panel to help things further if not. Then just lay the Spotify-sourced audio tracks over the video (and hope that the Spotify release is the same version of the track as the video release!)
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6 years, 1 month ago - Andrew Ionides
Thank you Tim. I'm guessing that is why some songs are louder than others because they have been mastered differently (some songs have been ripped from a mixture of old and re-mastered albums). The Spotify technique is interesting and I shall certainly try that if the compressor technique is too time-consuming.
I should've said at the beginning of the post but we do actually have a sound technician at our wedding who will be playing the playlist off a laptop which will be connected to two screens. We're hoping that perhaps he can simply adjust the levels while the playlist is playing. I think I just wanted to create less work for him by getting the sound levels right in the first place (I guess that's my filmmaker-perfectionist mentality kicking in! ha).
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