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1 year, 3 months ago - Harvey Andrews
Hello everyone,
A couple friends and I recently got together and made our first short since graduating film school two years ago.
I kindly ask if you could spare 10 minutes and give our short film a watch and please respond with any general feedback/advice that would benefit us moving forward as we look to create more work.
https://youtu.be/SXsOmKzOK5w
As the director and editor, I personally want to constantly improve as I love to make films. So any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Harvey
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1 year, 3 months ago - Alexej Voronov
Hello Harvey,
Congratulations for making Under the Light! Would you be open to scheduling a call tomorrow so I can give you my feedback? Thank you in advance!
Kindest regards,
Alexej Voronov
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1 year, 3 months ago - Harvey Andrews
Hi Alexej,
That sounds great. Does 1pm work for you tomorrow?
Thanks,
Harvey
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1 year, 2 months ago - Alexandru R
Hey Harvey!
I hope you're well.
I've had a look at the film and I was quite captivated - the editing is really good and you built suspense really well. Bar from some tropes, I thought the film was nicely shot. You have some nice angles and composition in a lot of shots which was really nice to see. The way you played with sound and score was nice as well, although I have some reservations about the score at the end.
I was a bit lost in the story. First time I watched it, which is usually the only change you get as a filmmaker, I didn't really know what the story was about or what the film was trying to say. If you were going for a thriller vibe then I think you've somewhat achieved that through the edit, but the story lets it down. I'm not sure what the letter was about, why he froze when he saw his reflection in the window, why he froze at the sight of the tobacco pouch, why we see him seeing himself on the street in a hospital gown. I rewatched it. Is he a schizophrenic freaking out because of his new diagnosis? Was he recently diagnosed with lung cancer? Or something to do with his teeth? Also, the scrolls through his phone were impossible to read, if you wanted them to add to the story, as they moved too fast for the tempo of the film. I also found the dialogue bizarre and it didn't really establish any connection between the characters. I think you'll need to give your audience a lot of context before showing this film. Perhaps in an attempt to not give away too much, the film doesn't give away anything.
My advice for the future is focus on story and enhance it with your creative style. Think about the message you want to send as an artist. Think seriously on the stories you want to tell. Read out the script with your cast before filming and see if it makes sense. Ask people for their feedback on your script and get as many opinions as possible, even if you don't consider them in the end.
I hope you won't feel discouraged about my feedback. Remember that this is just one opinion.
Keep moving forward.
Alexandru R
Response from 1 year, 2 months ago - Alexandru R SHOW
1 year, 2 months ago - Harvey Andrews
Hi Alexandru,
Thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to watch our film. We're still early on into our journey. With this film we wanted to try things to see if they worked or not for future projects.
We tried to create a film that tried to not tell the viewer the exactly what is happening. I always find it more interesting when there isn't a concrete answer in a film, rather there are elements of subtle subtext portrayed through imagery which give way to a larger overall story based off how you interpret that subtext. After all, aren't films more impactful once you have to think of the hidden meaning afterwards? And with the questions you asked, I wanted you as a viewer to ask those questions as now you're thinking about the film and not immediately moving on from it.
For instance, by the text on the phone being impossible to read, do you mean this is because of the colour? As we cut from the phone and not linger too much to not lead into that idea of giving too much away. We also didn't write much dialogue. Because I wanted to try and tell the story purely through imagery and metaphors and not have to rely on dialogue, which I feel is lazy. Basically, this film was a whole 'show don't tell' experiment.
On reflection I know that I could've been more concreate in places and not be so subtle. But anyway, your notes are incredibly valuable. Thank you for again taking time out of your day to watch our film and have this conversation.
Harvey
Response from 1 year, 2 months ago - Harvey Andrews SHOW
1 year, 2 months ago - Borys Shusterman
Hi Harvey,
My English isn't very good. So I didn't understand the dialogue very well, but I think I got the point. I liked the film in general, especially if you consider that it is only your beginning. If I may make some remarks.
1. At the very beginning on the general frame where the hero stands back. First - at the very beginning his left hand is located somehow not quite well and may oszdasstvuyusya impression is not very good. Then a very close-up of the hero's profile. I think this is a mistake. It is not immediately clear that it is the same person. It would be necessary to develop this place somehow.
2. Displaying text on the screen. I counted five shots of the phone screen. Actually, in the early days of cinema, it was considered bad taste to use phone conversations to reveal the plot. Now we're dealing with the Internet. That's fine. But if you want the viewer to read the text on the screen, then firstly the text is very much and what is the main thing in this text is also not clear. So it is not good at all.
3. You have an episode where the hero is in the frame with the back of his head. It is not very good to show so long the back of the head of a person. Especially since nothing is happening. He's not being kicked in the head. I think you have three frames. Unless in the last one where he turned his head in full-face it is normal. You can see the reaction on his face.
4. Finally the finale. The frame where the face of the hero lying on the ground should be shocking, but it does not show his face. The episode is important it would be supported by an interesting sound, music kako something. But the main thing is the lamp. I understand "Under the light" means the lamp of the operating table? But if you had it, it's let's just say it's a very small lamp. In fact, it's a very short shot of that lamp. I realise you had limited resources to shoot in a real operating theatre. But you had to do something about it. Because the finale was a bit of a letdown. In general, it is not bad that in the whole film there are some sources of light in the night city and then the short circuit on the operating lamp would have turned out very well.
That's about it. Sorry if I upset you.
Best wishes.
Boris
Response from 1 year, 2 months ago - Borys Shusterman SHOW