ASK & DISCUSS
INDEXCan I use a song that I cannot afford the use of?
10 years, 5 months ago - jak haddock
I would like to use a piece of music that would cost an outrageous amount of money to use....more than the budget of the short film.
BUT I understand it is possible to use a ten second clip of any music for free. Is that true?
Is it 10 seconds or 30 seconds and can the music be several clips from the same song.
I assume accreditation must be given. Any more info would be welcome
Thanks
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10 years, 3 months ago - Chris Cardell
Jak,
We would be happy to help you with your music needs. We have a great selection of music that you can afford.
Regards,
Chris Cardell
MusicRevolution.com
Response from 10 years, 3 months ago - Chris Cardell SHOW
10 years, 3 months ago - Steven Corton
If you want some music knocking out, let us know and I could arrange it for you pal. Cheers.
Response from 10 years, 3 months ago - Steven Corton SHOW
10 years, 5 months ago - jak haddock
Dont recall where I heard that so long as it was a snippet, it was okay
Response from 10 years, 5 months ago - jak haddock SHOW
10 years, 5 months ago - Ben Hole
I think this confusion sometimes arises from the practice of fair dealing extracts of recorded works for the purpose of critical review. For example film extracts which are being directly discussed in the main body of the programmes. Certainly I've worked on shows where this has been the case.
Response from 10 years, 5 months ago - Ben Hole SHOW
10 years, 5 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin
No, in a word. Where did you hear that?
Response from 10 years, 5 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin SHOW
10 years, 5 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin
Wherever you heard it from was wrong, sorry Jak. There is some dispensation for if it's incidental/background - for instance an interview with David Cameron and a car drives past playing a tune. If the scene is directed and music chosen, that's different.
As for YouTube, that used to be the case but more and more you'll find your clip simply pulled or muted
http://www.youtube.com/yt/copyright/en-GB/fair-use.html#yt-copyright-myths
There may be a way around it FOR YOUTUBE ONLY which is to see if the track you want is in their advert-sorted audio library. They run adverts on your film, and give the money to the artist for some tracks - see https://www.youtube.com/audiolibrary/music which may help you find if the track you want is or is not included.
Response from 10 years, 5 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin SHOW
10 years, 5 months ago - Marlom Tander
FWIW YouTube Content ID will pick up any music, even if in law it's fair use.
I shot at a climbing wall and they had music playing, as they do. So, incidental to my recording (docu), and as such a fair use in both US and UK copyright law.
Got flagged by Content ID and dispute failed. YT is on "agree with any claim" autopilot. Though to be honest, so would i in their shoes...
But as to the substance of your question - in your context (not news, not docu) Paddy is right.
Response from 10 years, 5 months ago - Marlom Tander SHOW
10 years, 3 months ago - Dan Selakovich
Yeah, the 10 second thing is bullshit. There is some good news though; many have a film festival exclusion. So if you're only showing the thing at film festivals, you might be able to use it. Call BMI or whoever represents the sale and explain that it is only a short and/or only shown in festivals. They might give you a break, especially if it's not the entire song (know how much of the song will be used when you call them). It doesn't hurt to ask.
Response from 10 years, 3 months ago - Dan Selakovich SHOW
10 years, 5 months ago - jak haddock
Also it seems to me that anyone can put a short film on youtube and use any song they want so how does that work?
Response from 10 years, 5 months ago - jak haddock SHOW