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DCP Creation?

9 years, 5 months ago - Matt Turner

Hi All,

Matt from Shooting People here.

We've been looking into services for filmmakers that we can integrate into SP, and were wondering if there was interest in one particular service, were we to offer it.

We've found out that getting a DCP made for festival submission can be a costly and difficult process, and something a lot of first time filmmakers are unsure about the process for. If we are able to offer reduced rate DCP creation from member's films, would this be a service that would be of interest to the community?

Please feedback your experiences with getting a DCP made for festivals, or doing it yourself, and let us know whether this could be something worth pursuing?

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9 years, 5 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin

Matt, any such services, especial if reviewed to keep them competitive, are always going to be a plus.

People can home make a DCP, but it'll almost certainly miss some more involved features like metadata security keys etc. And they may well miss a bunch of other metadata stuff, so may play with the wrong colour profile, or such. If the service also does a bunch of similar checks and corrections it may appeal to some?

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9 years, 5 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin

Actually, thinking more about this, an SP Marketplace might be a way for people to offer their services and create a mirror to the current 'find work/people' facility.

Maybe giving the postings a limited lifespan so they stay current/are maintained
Maybe charges must be explicitly listed
Maybe some kind of peer review (anonymous, even?)

That way any deals you do collectively can sit alongside freelancers.

Just a thought :)

Response from 9 years, 5 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin SHOW

9 years, 5 months ago - Matt Turner

Thanks Paddy. Colour profiling was something we'd identified as being a problem with the 'DIY from YouTube tutorials' method.

And it's funny you should say about the SP Marketplace actually..

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9 years, 5 months ago - Adam Soch

Yes. I did not apply to a few festivals because they wanted DCP. Looked into it and found it too complicated for me to do it and to expensive for a studio to do it. If reasonably priced, I would use the service.

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9 years, 5 months ago - David Hughes

I have tried many times to create DCPs using off-the-shelf DCP creation software and they've never come out quite right, especially when a 5.1 mix is involved. I currently use a company called Motion Picture Solutions that costs £300 for a 90 second trailer – 90 seconds! – so I can only imagine what the cost of a feature would be. I'd be very interested to hear of any discounts that could be offered to SP members.

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9 years, 5 months ago - Kate Grey

Hi Matt, I am in the process of submitting my short to festivals and have done a bit of research into prices for DCP and yes for a short £500 ( one of the quotes) is a lot - especially in advance of being accepted for screening! - we are going to try a DIY if a festival 'demanded' it, just to see if it works but I would certainly be interested if there was on offer a competitive rate for a bone fide result. Keep me in the loop?

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9 years, 5 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin

Even £500 is a bargain when you consider at one time you'd have to freight a reel of 35mm ;-)

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9 years, 5 months ago - Madis Malgand

We at Edithouse, create professional DCP's at very cost effective rates:
Up to 30 mins of footage - £100 + the cost of the Linux formatted HDD / CRU Drive
Up to 1 hour of footage - £150 + the cost of the Linux formatted HDD / CRU Drive
Up to 2 hours of footage - £200 + the cost of the Linux formatted HDD / CRU Drive

The cost includes also converting the footage from 25fps or 23.976fps to 24fps and includes the 5.1 surround sound, also it is possible to QC the DCP in our premises (on TV screen, not a cinema) and we will always run a validation on the DCP's after they are created. Please note that we are using professional tools and not a free software for our encoding processes.

Even better we do offer a further discount on the SP member at -10% on the mastering (HDD not included in the discounts)
For more information please visit http://edithouse.co.uk/dcp-digital-cinema-package

Thank you!

Response from 9 years, 5 months ago - Madis Malgand SHOW

9 years, 5 months ago - Kate Grey

Hi Paddy, yes I agree, if you've shot on film you would still have to deliver reels if you want your film seen in it's original etc.. and processing is very expensive....Ii's hard to compare in some ways (I've shot on film and digi) it's just that the march on digital including (projection) was sold as a way to democratise access - I know not all festivals require DCP but you want your film to look and sound it's best...,, I'm not really complaining,,just sayin" :- )

Also, Hello Madis! I will check out your site and be in touch!

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9 years, 5 months ago - Nicholas Vince

Yes, very interested in this. Getting close to picture lock on my first short film, so this is very timely. I'll also check out Edithouse. Thanks Madis.

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9 years, 4 months ago - Adi Jani

Hi Matt,

For my last film, I was able to create a DCP using a free software called OPENDCP. It comes with tutorials and it was pretty straight forward. It has all the standard requirements required by the festivals and the Academy and it was pretty simple to do. I highly recommend you check it out, I was able to create a DCP on my home computer overnight, then went to my local cinema to test it out, and there was no problem. Also, you can create it in 2k and 4k, which is handy.

Hope this helps.

Adi

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9 years, 4 months ago - Alève Mine

Adi

With OPENDCP, I didn't manage, and am thinking even if I did, I wouldn't have a way to check if it works properly in an actual cinema. Maybe they could enhance it to make it easier to be sure it'll work on the day.

Response from 9 years, 4 months ago - Alève Mine SHOW

9 years, 4 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin

Free DCP software is great but somewhat limited, and full compliance is not guaranteed. Horses for courses, but you've no comeback if your project is in the wrong colour space for instance.

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