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INDEXFair rates for full time jobs?
7 years, 3 months ago - Vasco de Sousa
Okay, so some people on this list have day jobs. No problem. Some of the greatest innovators in art were amateurs.
But, let's say film was your full time job. What salary would make it worth quitting the day job?
I have access to average salaries in the US and UK per profession, but these are sometimes vague. (I know that administrators get paid more in the legal industry, for instance.)
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7 years, 3 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin
There's a recognised grade ladder, which should be your starting point
Grades by Group as of 30-05-2014
GROUP
1 All Runners
2 Art Dept Junior
Camera Trainee
Costume Trainee
Directors Assistant
Electrical Trainee / junior
Jnr Costume Asst
Make-up Traineee
Producers Assistant
Production Secretary
Props Trainee / junior
Script Supervisor's Assistant
Sound Trainee / junior
3 2nd Assistant Editor
3rd Assistant Director
Accounts Assistant/cashier
Art Dept Co-ordinator
Art Dept Assistant
Asst Production Co-ordinator
Costume Assistant
Junior Make-up & Hair
Location Assistant
4 Data Wrangler
Video Playback Operator
5 Assistant Art Director
Costume Dresser
Costume Maker
Nurse
Post Production Co--ordinator
Sound Asst (3rd man)
Unit Manager
6 Assistant SFX technician
Asst. Location Manager
Researcher
7 2nd Assistant Accountant
Clapper Loader
Draughtsperson
8 Assistant Costume Designer
Dressing Props
Graphic Artist
9 Illustrator
Stand By Construction
Stand By Costume
Stand By Props
Storyboard Artist
10 Make Up Artist
Production Co-ordinator
11 1st Assistant Accountant
2nd Assistant Director
Senior Video Playback Operator
Storeman/Asst Prop Master
12 Armourer
Board Operator
Boom Operator
Chargehand Props
Electrician
Post Prod. Supervisor
Production Buyer
Rigging Electrician
Senior Make-up Artist
SFX Technician
Stand-by Art Director
13 1st Asst. Editor
Art Director
Convergence Puller
DIT
14 ?Crane Technician?
Grip
Location Manager
Prop Master
15 Costume Supervisor
Best Boy Electrician
Best Boy Grip
Rigging Gaffer
Make Up Supervisor
Scenic Artist
Script Supervisor
Sculptor
Set Decorator
Stereographer AC
16 Focus Puller
Production Accountant
Stills Photographer
17 Dubbing Editor
18 1st Assistant Director
Camera Operator
Costume Designer
Gaffer
Hair & Make Up Chief/Designer
Key Grip
Production Manager
Prosthetic Make Up Designer
Senior SFX Technician
Sound Recordist
Supervising Art Director
19 Individual Negotiation =>
Casting Director
Director
Director of Photography
Editor
Line Producer / UPM
Production Designer
SFX Supervisor
(source https://www.bectu.org.uk/filegrab/pact-bectu-draft-film-grade-ladder-jun14.xlsx?ref=1612)
There are different suggested rates per grade depending on the project budget, although that really starts at £350k for features. In all cases, you have to pay national living wage, and allow for ~25% extra for NI and Holiday pay. You do seem to be referring to having people on some kind of salary which is great, so that's where the holiday and NI come in, and you'll also need to factor in the payroll costs. Some roles on features MUST be PAYE according to HMRC, so you CANNOT pay them on invoice as "self-employed" without HMRC giving you gyp and trying to hit you up for the taxes employees fail to declare ;-)
Response from 7 years, 3 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin SHOW
7 years, 3 months ago - Lee 'Wozy' Warren
Not all wages for people are equal enough to find a single figure that 'someone' could quit their day job for. Everyone has different needs and requirements that pull and push them in different ways. £300 per day for one person may be enough but not for someone else - for doing the same job.
Response from 7 years, 3 months ago - Lee 'Wozy' Warren SHOW