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INDEXMade it to a festival, then what?
11 years, 1 month ago - Raed Abbas
So, what's the next step once you're nominated in a festival? Is it best to start looking for a distributor your self or is better to find an agent?
CUT will be screened on the 15th of this month in Madrid Film Festival at 8:30pm Screen Room 2
http://www.madridinternationalfilmfestival.com/festival-programme/july-15th-2014-screening-room-2
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11 years, 1 month ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin
Madrid Intl Film Festival - do they have buyers attending? If not, then the festival is a bit of fun and sharing and showing with fellow filmmakers. If any serious buyers are present then if they watch and like the film they'll want to make you an offer on it - take all their details and don't say yes on the spot, or be flattered into it - you may get better offers later in the cold light of day. Then you can get a rep to guide you through which are *actually* the best deals (it is easy to bury terms and caveats in deals and contracts that can spanner things.
Sales contracts are incredibly complex with a whole list of deliverables required - basically every contract or deal, notarised declarations, chain of title - this is why you need advice before saying 'yes' to any buyer as the headline figures can be very different once certain weasel words are accounted for.
But be aware, May is Cannes, that's a full-on market where sales and buyers /all/ go, so they'll tend to go there instead. Most likely you'll have a bit of fun and glory at the festi, then come home again.
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11 years, 1 month ago - Raed Abbas
Wonderful thanks buddy. Very helpfull. The main question remain, where do I find a producer rep?
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11 years ago - Raed Abbas
@Dan Selakovich
I'm checking with Raindance. I'm a member so I should finally make use of my membership and ask for a guide. Thanks a lot Don :)
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11 years, 1 month ago - Dan Selakovich
@Raed Abbas Rain Dance (a U.K. organization) has an article. Maybe that will help.
http://www.raindance.co.uk/site/?id=46,2073,0,0,1,0
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11 years, 1 month ago - Dan Selakovich
And a P.S.: in the U.S., John Sloss is the best. Perhaps an email asking advice on anyone in the U.K. might get you on the right track. You never know. If your film is excellent, he might even take you on.
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11 years ago - David Graham Scott
I just won for Best UK documentary at Open City Docs Fest in London. Got some chocolates and a certificate. It did get me some nice publicity on Vice magazine but other than that no big offers.
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11 years ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin
@Dan Selakovich That scam is just horrible! I have to say there appear to be a lot of outright crooks and sharks in film, but I suppose Hollywood was grown with Mob money so it's hardly surprising.
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11 years ago - Raed Abbas
@Dan Selakovich
Thank you very much.. this is awesome.. I really appreciate every single word up there.. well done :)
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11 years ago - Raed Abbas
Beautiful, thanks a lot Donna. Wish you the same. And well done on your Doc.
One thing tho, mine is thriller feature film not doc but I got your point.
I'm not completely new but this is my first feature which I want to experience the business of making films :)
I hope to see your work on the big screen and you on the Oscar stage :)
Thanks again
Raed
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11 years, 1 month ago - Dan Selakovich
@Raed Abbas In the U.K.? I have no idea. But let's say you get an offer. A full buy-out is probably best (where a distributor offers you cash on all rights, and that's the end of it). Distributors are notorious for screwing producers.
What Paddy said below is probably best case. And the deliverables can be a shock to anyone that hasn't had any experience with a distributor. Did you have a post supervisor on your film? If so, they probably took care of a lot of what distributors want.
If you do get an offer at a festival, it can be sticky if you don't win. That offer may vanish by the end of the festival. That's where a good Producer's Rep. can guide it through the minefield. Keep in mind, you'll be giving up a big percentage to a producer's rep. if you don't have upfront cash. But it can be well worth it, in the end, so don't get sticker shock. Good P. reps are pricy.
There's also a scam that has been going on for years now. Some evil dude will buy your film for next to nothing, then pretend to be the producer on the film and try to collect tax credits from Government entities that will put money in his pocket. These are pretty huge in Canada and the former Yugoslavia where tax credits are huge. He may even change all of the credits in your film to show that it was filmed using "local" talent. It's a pretty nasty scam, as your film is seen by nobody once this "producer" gets paid. Be sure to fully check out any distributor that gives you an offer.
And you thought just making the film was hard.
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11 years ago - Dan Selakovich
@Paddy Robinson-Griffin Yeah, Paddy, it's nasty. But it doesn't happen in Hollywood proper much. The latest guy caught was in Louisiana; a state with a big tax rebate. It happens shockingly often in Canada, though (and not on films even shot there, sometimes).
The Mob was thinking of breaking into Hollywood in the 70s, but, as the story goes, decided against it because Studio Accounting put them to shame. HA!
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11 years ago - Donna Lipowitz
Hello Raed,
Film Markets are the best places to have your film selected for and have the best chance of gaining real Distributor attention. Most bigger film festivals have Doc Markets attached. Hot Docs Canada, Dok Leipzig Germany, Krakow Film Festival Poland.
I was lucky to get the attention of a small Canadian Distributor via Hot Dok Market for my first longer Doc.
It wasn't a buy out, but they worked kind of as my agent and sold the film to a couple of places, including cable TV in the UK.
I'm not wealthy from the experience, haha :) but I made back my expenses. As a new Doc filmmaker I was pretty pleased with the outcome overall.
It depends on how far you are along experience wise. If this is new to you then my advice is to stay smalltime until you have a valid reason to justify spending £ on extras. Don't spend what you can't afford to lose. Remember why you make films in the first place, don't get too overwhelmed by the business.
Smaller film festivals are brilliant to get to meet other filmmakers and to have your film screened in front of an audience, an opportunity for publicity and are generally just lots of fun. Especially great if you are starting out.
I find a lot of the advice here on SP overly technical, complicated and not practical to the average small time filmmaker sitting in their kitchen editing their latest masterpiece :)
And... there is a lot of luck involved. Right place, right film, right time and all that.
You could also have a look at distributors you like and see what films they are signing. For them it is a business and some things are marketable and some things are not.
Raed I don't know you or your film and I just read your post before starting to edit my film this morning, but I wish you the best of luck and hope you manage to find what you need.
Donna
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