ASK & DISCUSS

INDEX

Teen actors and chaperones....

10 years, 3 months ago - Chelsey Burdon

Hi Shooters!

This forum has been very helpful to me in the past so I was wanting a quick word of advice from anybody who has worked with actors under 16. My upcoming film has one small part played by an actor of 15 - I understand that his actors agreement etc will need to be signed by a parent or guardian, but what is the situation legally in terms of on set chaperone? Can I, for example, allocate a spare production assistant to be responsible for him during his shooting hours , does that person need to be CRB checked?

BBC Film advice states a license is needed from the local authority for engaging actors under 16. Is this required in every case - and does anybody have experience with having to get one of these processed?

Thanks, any advice that you can offer is greatly appreciated.

Only members can post or respond to topics. LOGIN

Not a member of SP? JOIN or FIND OUT MORE

Answers older then 1 month have been hidden - you can SHOW all answers or select them individually
Answers older then 1 month are visible - you can HIDE older answers.

10 years, 3 months ago - John Lubran

There is no actual Law per se prohibiting minors from acting with nothing other than the permission of the minor’s legal guardian and the same Common Law imperatives that apply to everyone. This notion of licensing from local authorities is a legal fiction being extrapolated from other legislation concerning unauthorised absence from school (another statute of shaky constitutional provenance) and the protection of minors with regard to exploitation (15 year olds may work for money or for nothing subject to otherwise reasonable legislation affecting under 16’s) and health and safety issues which contrary to myth are not even specifically laid out under statute. The important thing is that producers have taken all reasonable steps to ensure safety, otherwise the producer is personally liable. The BBC is a cap doffing organisation whose staff have been indoctrinated with the almost wholly unlawful assertions in the matter by presumptuous administrative bureaucracy. It’s an endemic condition that has managed to assert itself widely as having supremacy over Law to the extent that the myth has been accepted and is often enforced unlawfully.

Having said all that challenging their presumption requires a lot of balls and learnedly focused energy, so you may find that your life is best blessed by going along with as much of their presumption as you can bear. You’ll just hold your nose while you tick their boxes. It’s always good however to know the actual truth just in case it needs to be asserted.

Response from 10 years, 3 months ago - John Lubran SHOW

10 years, 3 months ago - Tamsin Goodwin-Connelly

This is a helpful document regarding amateur theatre: https://www.essex.gov.uk/Education-Schools/Schools/Pupil-Parent-Support/Documents/voluntary%20amateur%20theatrical%20organisations.pdf
Section 4 discusses the four day rule, conditions making you exempt from obtaining a chaperon license. The document also gives you information regarding allowable working hours etc. The rules for children 16-17 yr olds are different and far more relaxed but I do not have the specifics.

Response from 10 years, 3 months ago - Tamsin Goodwin-Connelly SHOW

10 years, 3 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin

Please note, Tamsins link above is for Essex, it may vary by region. Ask your own council if you're not in Essex :)

Response from 10 years, 3 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin SHOW

10 years, 3 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin

Best is to have a parent, often they're free, proud, and can also transport the actor. If you can't get a parent, you will need someone that you DBS check (money, time) who is also responsible. You should also acquaint yourself with your council's requirements, there will be maximum working hours, stipulations about tutors if in schooltime, etc., and you'll need to comply. The working hours one is a big deal, most likely you'll have to shoot all the kids angles first, then do the adult reverses in the afternoon with the minor off set.

Or find a young-looking 18-year-old and all the extra costs and problems go away. That's a serious suggestion, by the way.

Response from 10 years, 3 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin SHOW

10 years, 3 months ago - John Lubran

An interesting point Paddy. I think it underlines the fact these regional 'by-laws' are not in fact Law. Actual Law does not vary from one region of England and Wales to another, nor can it ever. Scotland has its own though broadly similar Law.

Response from 10 years, 3 months ago - John Lubran SHOW

10 years, 3 months ago - Leoni Kibbey

The chaperone has to be a parent/legal guardian or licensed chaperone. If you are paying the actor and/or filming during school hours you need to license the child. You still need to license a 16 year old if they haven't finished their GCSE year yet too. If you are filming during the weekend/school hols and not paying the actor you don't need a license however I would reccomend up to the age of 18 that you have a parent or legal guardian on set. I run the adults division (ie: age 16+) of www.tta.co.uk and most production companies will hire a young looking over licensing age actor to play younger. Hope that helps. Let me know if we can help in any way.

Response from 10 years, 3 months ago - Leoni Kibbey SHOW