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INDEXWill AI be co-writers, collaborators and creative partners to filmmakers?
2 years, 7 months ago - Jim Read
I can't lie... I'd been feeling pretty anxious about AI and the potential death to many roles in the creative industries what with all the leaps and bounds happening right now.
Yesterday, I attended a talk by fellow SP'er Stephen Follows on how he's created an experiment to make a complete writers room in AI, he's going to be developing this and making a podcast about the process, it's pitfalls and it's wins which you can follow at: https://stephenfollows.com/how-we-got-hired-to-create-an-ai-generated-feature-film-screenplay/
Really though, a lot of his talk had me factchecking myself on what AI is and isn't capable of - and how we as creatives can also look to use AI to improve our working processes, without AI... taking over!?
How are you all feeling about it? Have any of you had any cool uses for AI yet or are you firmly in the "never going to touch it" camp?
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2 years, 7 months ago - John Lubran
It's inevitable that AI will continue to evolve far beyond its present limits. It's not only AI's potential 'intellectual creativity' that can turn the same rhetorical and clichèd conceptual narratives that humans repeatedly recycle, into equally viable storytelling.
AI will also inevitably be able to produce, film and edit too. We humans will also need to evolve further into the realms of our sentient consciousness where machine code has only limited authenticity.
Years ago we used to teach that the exponentially improving auto features on production tools had introduced, that anathema to old school 'tradesmen', new production skills suggesting that people should welcome those technologies and beneficially "manually control auto functions" (not cede their souls to them) and advance their human qualities beyond any luddite prejudicial presumptions.
The frontiers of Sentient Consciousness are where humans can go much further than AI, but with its assistance. It's not only relevant to fiction but also to factual, where the greater opportunities emerge for more filmmakers.
It's often said that other realities are available, but in this case I doubt that's true.
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2 years, 7 months ago - cath le couteur
I've been using some of the text->image AI for pitches (specifically MidJourney). And was pretty blown away by what was possible. I have realised how much of it is also about how good the prompts are.
I follow Pratik Naik @futurist.ai who shares a lot of examples and educational info on how best to use.
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2 years, 7 months ago - steve Savitz
It's pretty crazy. The final test will be to see if AI can generate the most complex of all abstract writing skills - I'm talking about the joke. Good comedy often requires holding two contradictory thoughts at once; it requires word-specific phrasing accuracy and timing -- and it has to be socially relevant, spark irony, absurdity and be anchored in societal discontent. If AI can do that AND make me laugh out loud, then i give up. we will all be obsolete.
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2 years, 7 months ago - Jim Read
As far as I understand with my -puny- understanding of AI, AI is more about pattern recognition than intelligence. From what I've been reading so far, Chat GPT primarily comes from analysing colloquial language indicators, with most of the info coming from the web. Does give me a crumb of home that human ingenuity will never be recreatable.
Stephen also pointed out a fairly obvious point which had totally slipped my mind before. AI could never really be death-to-the-content-creator in the absolute way we view it, because it's got to LEARN from people. There's a lot of talk of this could be death to the stock image, etc, etc - but really if all stock imagery froze, so would a vast amount of AI's accuracy. If we trained it from the 90s, it's going to recreate the 90s. So that did give me a nice bit of hope that the positive aspects will be a great help to us indies (i.e. auto-captioning! that's changed my workflows HUGELY for the better, to just have to go in and make tweaks later down the line) without nuking us all out of work.
Who really knows though. I can't really look at my googly-eyed robovac the same now anyway.
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2 years, 7 months ago - John Lubran
Back in the 90's there was a lot of talk of the mythical '5th generation' computer. The basic notion was that this super computer would have sufficient 'neural' networking capacity to learn every item of knowledge and, importantly, be able to use everything it knows when concidering any issue or question.
We now have computers capable of being commensurate with those 5th generation notions. Ironically it humans that are now trying to catch up and learn how to use that capability. The Deep Thought computer imagined in Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy was pretty prescient of where we are right now. Deep Thought gave the answer to the ultimate question but not the articuable reason for it.
The exponentiality of the ability to take all known facts into concideration even with regard to the apparently simplest question is where AI is going once we've figured out the question.
It's only as scary as we are. What this emerging super AI can do is turn us into super humans too, especially once that computing power is practically available to easy access. Our human potential isn't threatened by AI, it's augmented by it.
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