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INDEXDoes anyone know how I can get a dcp made for my film? Who do I have to contact and how much on average does it cost?
5 years, 11 months ago - Ruth Holder
I am looking to screen my film in a cinema and I've heard that they usually ask for a dcp. Can someone tell me a little bit more about this process and how much it costs?
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5 years, 11 months ago - Paddy Robinson-Griffin
https://shootingpeople.org/discuss/view/49d9eefafd3c73729c7a4083 This recent discussion has a few pointers and thoughts that may help
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5 years, 11 months ago - Katie Moore
You can actually create them yourself, if you use adobe premiere pro. You export as wraptor DCP. It's worth checking with the cinema what the specs are of the DCP they need. Production houses will do it but it can be quite expensive, so depending on how adept you are with premiere, worth doing it yourself. If you want to check the dcp file, you can download a dcp checker software on trial and check the file. To deliver to the cinema, it needs to be on a PC enabled (not mac) disk.
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5 years, 11 months ago - Madis Malgand
We can professionally make the DCP for you. Although you can use the Premiere Pro to make the DCP, it is not fully DCI compliant and you could have some cinemas rejecting the DCP. The reason for having it done professionally is that the DCP should be checked (QC) and validated on the actual drive, that it will be supplied on. The drive should also be formatted correctly.
All the steps should be carefully and correctly carried out to make sure that you have a fully DCI compliant DCP.
Please contact Madis at EditHouse for quote.
We offer 10% discount for the members of Shooting People as well.
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Response from 5 years, 11 months ago - Madis Malgand SHOW
5 years, 11 months ago - Alwyne Kennedy
Madis, in what way is Wraptor within Premiere not fully DCI compliant? Please explain.
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5 years, 11 months ago - Derek Boyes
You can do the whole DCP in (yes, even the free version) in Davinci Resolve. The free version will only let you do a 2k copy, but then a 4K copy can look awful at a festival who only has a 2k projector, where as a 2k upscale from a festivals 4K projector looks great! ...so still with an HD version basically! All you need then is your hard drive formatted to Linux, which you can to for about £30 for one months subscription (where you can format as many drives as you want in that time) using an online service (sorry forgot what they are called bit google it). There is no need to pay for a DCP in 2019 and don’t listen to the scare mongering by paid services that day doing it yourself is risky and cannot give the quality. It can. :)
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5 years, 11 months ago - Anthony Hett
I think I paid around £70-£80? It was by a company called Cinebox. They made it when my film was selected for the London Short Film Festival, which was done for me by the festival and I didn't have to pay. But then after the festival, if I wanted a copy I could order one for a discounted price. They supplied me with a digital copy and a copy on a hard drive. I can't remember the exact price but it was under £100.
I know that you can make one yourself but I'm not very proficient in editing software and so for the peace of mind of knowing that it has been done properly, I was happy to pay. Some people quoted me £150+ for an 11min film. But if you shop around you can definitely get a better price.
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5 years, 11 months ago - Angela Peters
Hi Ruth, I had a company contact my film festival about making these too. Happy to pass on their details if you ever need them - but it sounds like you’ve had some great advice already on what to do.
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5 years, 11 months ago - Lucy Linger
I used DCPomatic and it has just passed QC for a film festival in Hollywood. If you search on YouTube there's a video tutorial on how to use it. It was incredibly easy and saved me a fortune getting the festival to create one for me..good luck. You really don't need to pay for one at all
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5 years, 10 months ago - Richard Lipman
Try Davinci Resolve - there is a free DCP delivery page - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3tka7-yqMg
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5 years, 10 months ago - Derek Boyes
...by the way that website I mentioned above for formatting to linux for your DCP drive is: https://www.cinematiq.com/
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5 years, 10 months ago - Arthur Vincie
If you're willing to do some work and also find a theater that will screen your short to QC it, you can do most of the work yourself. I used OpenDCP to create the DCP, using still image sequence & mono file exports from my NLE as the source. Where it gets tricky, Derek points out, is that you need to end up with your DCP on a Linux-formatted drive. It's a good idea to buy an enclosure for your drive.
This is a VERY rough guide, the videos and links above will get into more detail:
-- Take a look at the native DCP frame sizes. You may have to resize, crop or reframe your film to match the specs.
-- Export video as a still image sequence (TIFF highest bit depth possible, 24fps)
-- Export each sound channel to a separate mono WAV file (24 fps 48KHz)
-- OpenDCP will convert the still image sequence to JPG2000 in the XYZ colorspace
-- OpenDCP will wrap the JPG2000 image sequence + the sound files into an MXF file with accompanying XML metadata files
-- You'll need to buy a CRU (it's a drive plus enclosure with a SATA out) and format it as a Linux drive, then copy your files to said drive
-- Ideally play this back in a theater. The most common issues I've found are sound & video going out of sync due to improper framerate on export, or the XML metadata getting messed up.
OpenDCP creates unencrypted DCPs; if you want to create an encrypted DCP there are other software programs.
If you don't want all this headache, there are a few different places in NYC that do DCPs. I would actually work backwards and contact your local theater to see if they have insights. Not all DCPs are created the same and if they have had problems in the past with DCPs created by a specific vendor, at least you'll know who not to go to.
[Aside: one of my pet peeves is that DCPs cut the projectionist out of the loop in many ways. Whereas in the past a good projectionist could help patch tears and deal with other print problems so you could still screen your film, if the encryption key doesn't work or the drive isn't recognized by the server, there's not a lot the projectionist can do].
https://www.hbfilmworks.com/dcp-info.html has some good info.
I haven't tried the Resolve tools but my friends recommend them as well.
Response from 5 years, 10 months ago - Arthur Vincie SHOW